@samjayganges @Weedle @ArdainianRight @LovecraftEnthusiast @monsterislandcolonizer @sickburnbro Paypal Mafia (Peter Thiel, Musk, etc.) are at least interested in taking over a functional thing rather than crashing things with no survivors. Would that a team C of true /our guys/ existed, but they don't. And since there's basically zero successful slave revolts in history of human civilization, I don't think it's on its way now. Former team C in a meritocratic civilization would be easier than one in free fall DEI nosedive. IDK any of the answers, besides the fact that the future belongs to those who show up for it and it's best to have your own tight communities and not assume the internet will always be there, the lights will always turn on, or the grocery store will always have food.