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@jlou i also like the point that Crispin Sartwell makes here: https://soundcloud.com/nonserviammedia/non-serviam-podcast-11-crispin

given how powerful the state is, it is not clear that people could meaningfully consent to it. if group of highly armed mercenaries asks if they can come in your house to have tea, can we know you genuinely consented to their visit? now multiply the lethal force commanded by 10000, and assume the group also has taken over key social institutions like the legal and monetary system.