@TheWarOnCars I know urban planners who cycle to work every day, and still propose or endorse plans where cyclists are meant to be on the pavement, or nowhere at all. It's not because they don't know better. Even if they didn't already have all the knowledge, they get told by me at every public consultation. Yet they persist, and not only that, but they claim that what they're planning is very good for cyclists. There's something off about the mentality of these urban planners.