@coolboymew Yeah but for pretty much none of the ones I gave are really excusable.

Like punks have made their own websites and the like, lot of them even know some webdesigners.

Demoscene, I'd say it's surprisingly self hosted compared to the rest. Just a bit weird to be oriented towards retro and small software and then… Discord.

FLOSS is the most inexcusable.

Weebs… I know like half are just consumers but there's no excuse on the tech side of things.