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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 04:26:24 JST pistolero
@ins0mniak @Humpleupagus @adiz
> this judgement is ridiculous when considering the kind of monetary penalties mainstream outlets get.
Do they get penalties? The Russian Pee Tape and the "dossier", right, was there a $1.5B lawsuit?
> Personally I think he did go to far with some of that Sandy Hook Shit,
I think it is impossible to see David Hogg talk and not immediately think, "This guy's full of shit." You know? And then the media and the politicians jumping on it with both feet, "THIS IS WHY NOBODY SHOULD HAVE A GUN!", like they were glad the dead kids were allowing them to push their agenda. Anyone with a pulse could tell these people were fucked, so it's just a matter of how. I had the same thought I have every time I see a politician or a media whore climb over kids' corpses to try to score a point: psychopaths are indifferent to others' suffering but hyper-sensitive to how others perceive them, and they tend to be petty and spiteful. I can see making the jump from "These people are acting like this shooting didn't happen and this guy is obviously lying" all the way to "Maybe they're acting like that because it *actually* didn't happen."
Scott Alexander wrote the Sandy Hook thing off as Alex Jones being paranoid rather than lying, and he had some interesting thoughts on it: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/the-media-very-rarely-lies .
Also: video related this time.
> That having been said a 1.5 billion judgement is insane.
:gibbysmug2: According to law.cornell.edu, where I got my law degree--
:dudethink: You went to Cornell?
:gibbysmug: Well, I went to the *website*.
:dudemad: ...
:gibbysmug2: I did my undergrad at Wikipedia. Go, sockpuppets!
Anyway, I looked it up when Humpleupagus mentioned the statutory limit on judgments for emotional distress: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1981a . The cap is at $300k, but only if you have at least 501 employees, and it goes down from there. There's also a burden of proof, although with the usual caveats about proving intent, you can't just say that you were emotionally distressed, you have to demonstrate that they knew or acted with callous disregard etc.
> it was that Wolfgang Halbig clown
I don't think I have ever heard of a case where you are emotionally distressed by proxy. I mean, that was what they argued: the emotional distress was from people harassing them, and they believed Alex Jones had directly caused the people to harass them. I don't think the suit was filed in good faith, I think the only point was to shut him down.
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