@s2208 @Thusnelda @Turkleton Only one of /areguys would immediately know what's habbening, but you would also have to have inside knowledge of the service structure of AA to really get the whole picture. Most ppl who wash up in AA either don't stick around or are too selfish and lazy to ever do service at that level.

But in the shortest terms I can make this, servants of satan are using AA's General Service Conference to change all AA literature *except* the Big Book to remove normal and healthy references to gender and sex and replace them with vagaries that don't offend trannies and fags and feminists. They can't change the Big Book bc that's a hard line, so they are writing a parallel Big Book whose working title is the "plain language" Big Book. The 12 & 12 has already been irreparably altered and most ppl have no idea. If they did, they might protest, but there are ways for the Conference to never allow such things to come to a vote. That has already happened, aided greatly by the pandemic. I would guess that the majority of sober alcoholics in amerikwa at least are centrist-to-hard-left--no one's going to be able to stop what they are doing.