@tokyo_0 I may dislike the JavaScript development ecosystem more than you, though. I hate how even simple projects balloon into millions of lines of code almost instantly the moment you use something like React. Really, any time you're using npm/yarn/etc. you're gonna have an explosion of dependencies, now you need WebPack, tree-shaking, etc. For me, being able to add one line to pull in HTMX and then do everything requiring smarts on the backend, with possibly no JS, is ideal.