@placebo This is absolutely entirely correct. The man did something horrendous to the "tatted up stripper with four baby daddies" and will never have victim status. The stripper is in that profession and has "four baby daddies" because of male abuse, it forced her into that profession and those four men did whatever they could to own her: physical abuse, rape, blackmail, gaslighting, the whole nine yards.

The women in both of your scenarios are victims and both of the men are abusers.