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@statsguy NP, regarding the "need" part, that i had forgotten to answer, of course maybe not *all* apps need it, but one should not underestimate the ability to move "laterally", from gaining access to an apparently low criticity account/app, to others, by leveraging it for say, impersonation, or digging information that could help further attacks, email is of course the most obvious failure point, everyone has all their secrets in it, but social accounts can be used to extort money from friends