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@redneonglow @Paulajak @lss @degen @s2208 @histoire well try not to bring up that last part to a girl. They like more subtle things. Maybe some confidence, psychological, and communication issues to work on. An occupation is pretty good in this era no lie. It’s how you sell it, too. You can start off casual without taking her back to parents, and so many young people are living at home anyway… I dunno this is way beyond the scope of what my thread started as, and I don’t have all the answers, and I’m struggling myself. :blobcatsad: uh let’s see, I’ve had very loose success sexting with 18 year olds on Twitter who like older guys, you can try something like that but irl. Be more confident and avoid talking about what society sees as bad points.