@Dudebro @Richard @kgibson @ScArecrow23 @givenup yea but they can't do anything pickup related, that's the down side

cant haul
cant tow
not comfy for riding in

i saw one of those canyons or something, quad cab, the other day and was like i bet it doesn't get any better mileage than my half ton and its crippled for doing truck stuff

i'm looking the other direction at 250s tbh, although getting into diesel i hear is a bit tricky since unless you use it to make money its costing you