@snow_huwhite @suquili This is true, to an extent. Regardless of wholesomeness, you still need to keep your girl and her crazy in check or the relationship is doomed, which isn't fair to you or the girl you're involved with.
Also, trad just strikes me as cheesy and fake. Like, I can trust a goth girl if she's reasonably wholesome, but a trad girl just feels like like her entire existence is fake, and I just can't trust that.