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@danb Traditional search engines have operated in a fairly straightforward model of a value exchange, primarily providing links back to the sites from which information has been gathered. Generative AI systems for all practical purposes are a Take Everything and Give Nothing Back model, either not offering by default useful links back to sources, or making users take extra steps (that they're unlikely to do) to see those links. There simply is no comparison, and in essence these firms have now violated the unwritten understanding which was the basis for their being permitted to access that data in the first place.