@inthehands @charlesgaba There is a moment that sticks with me from Neil Stephenson of all things ( not any you are thinking of, I mean Zodiac)
The main character is talking about environmental damage and harm and illegal levels of a corporation to a 'civilian', just an average person. And he says something like 'it's 30 times over the legal limit', but the internal monologue is that it was thousands of times, it just helped people to convince with the smaller number.