@hakui @Moon i think stirner tried to edge around this with how power structures are all spooks and its the man who determines everything. if you know the man's plans and means you know what the power will do, the power structure is a spook. the countries are spooks. its the actual physical tribe that is the unit of account.

besmenov had a later speech that tl;dr's "god is the only way out of demoralization"

its probably no surprise the religion/statehood that built the biggest cities are the ones that equate to like, "be decent always" rather than identitarian concerns like other ones had.