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@SteelFolk Punitive how exactly? I've certainly heard a few callous things before, but never a **common** stance where it should be punitive.

My own stance is not there there are punishments. Do what is required of you (like enroll in school for free),a nd get the money as long as your going. If you stop going you dont get punished other than not receiving the benefits you got for going.

I'd also make the absolute minimal level of food needed not to die (soup kitchens) plus a cot in a gym with 100 other people to sleep on as always available no questions asked. But if you want a home and food you buy yourself and some of the basic needs beyond just keeping you alive, yea that should have conditions.