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@lonelyowl13

You are correct, we are talking about conditional in a very different sense of how it applied.

I am not talking about conditional in the sense that "I filled out paper work and am in poverty"that is obviously a condition no one should have any issue with. I am talking about the condition that you must be taking steps to get out of poverty to accept the money. In other words you must demonstrate you are taking higher education classes, a trade-skill class, job training, psychiatric help, basically whatever it is that is needed to get you out of poverty you must persue in order to get the welfare. All of these avenues must be included free of charge with welfare.

This does not exist. I grew up on welfare, from the day i was born till the day I got my own home at 15 years old, I was on welfare that entire time. There was no conditions placed on it in terms of anything my mom had to do to get out of welfare. The only condition is you were poor enough to need money, and you would get it. Which is the very reason my mom never got off welfare, in fact, she made it a point to stay on it because to get off of it she would actually have lost money due to the welfare gap (another issue that needs addressing).

So yea, conditional welfare, in the sense that I describe it doesnt exist. But UBI is closer to what we already have (non-conditional in terms of any effort you need to make on your part to get off of it, in fact its designed to keep you on it). So why take what we already have that is broken and crank it to 11 , rather than actually trying to solve the problem for once?

@scottsantens