@chimera_linux @Gottox @ariadne Yeah, I can understand why gnome did it (after all a desktop has a lot of services either system or user) and they're one example among many others, I'd also say the lack of understanding of gnome needs.

The annoying part is it looks like it happened in a rather unilateral way with direct dependency on systemd (specially libsystemd) rather than "we need services to be managed, we found systemd to be elegant for this, but you can choose something else which does the same thing".