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@ariadne @Gottox fwiw the whole idea that creating a service manager is some kind of magical solution to service management problems is flawed, in reality it's only a part of it

sure, you need a solid base, but the integration work and tooling around it is another massive part, and makes up the majority of the actual UX

you can do it like systemd and provide all that stuff along with it (RH had it easy though since they have an in-house OS) which takes away power from the distribution, or...