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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://hachyderm.io/users/inthehands/statuses/112034905364463661">Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 04-Mar-2024 10:49:52 JST</a><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands" title="inthehands@hachyderm.io"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/53259-48-20231130154634.webp" width="48" height="48" alt="Paul Cantrell" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">Paul Cantrell</a><div><a href="https://lor.sh/@hwestiii/112034856675844757" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a><ul><li><li><a href="https://gnusocial.jp/user/120494" title="hwestiii@lor.sh">hwestiii</a></li></ul></div></section><article><p><a href="https://lor.sh/@hwestiii">@hwestiii</a> <a href="https://progressives.social/@chargrille">@chargrille</a><br>I don’t much like the defeatism of that sentiment, as much as I share the frustration.</p><p>I've never read <a href="https://how.complexsystems.fail" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://how.complexsystems.fail</a> as being about democracy before, but your comment prompted me to do that now, and I’m finding it shines an interesting light on this political moment:</p><p>“Complex systems contain changing mixtures of failures latent within them.”</p><p>“Complex systems run in degraded mode.”</p><p>“Catastrophe is always just around the corner.”</p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/2786707#notice-5524226">In conversation</a><time datetime="2024-03-04T10:49:52+09:00" title="Monday, 04-Mar-2024 10:49:52 JST">about a year ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112034905364463661" rel="external" title="Sent from hachyderm.io via ActivityPub">hachyderm.io</a></span></span><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112034905364463661">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><article><header><div>No result found on File_thumbnail lookup.</div><h5><a href="https://how.complexsystems.fail/">How Complex Systems Fail</a></h5><div></div></header><div></div><footer></footer></article></li><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/2331694">4. Complex systems contain changing mixtures of failures latent within them.The complexity of these systems makes it impossible for them to run without multiple flaws being present. Because these are individually insufficient to cause failure they are regarded as minor factors during operations. Eradication of all latent failures is limited primarily by economic cost but also because it is difficult before the fact to see how such failures might contribute to an accident. The failures change constantly because of changing technology, work organization, and efforts to eradicate failures.5. Complex systems run in degraded mode.A corollary to the preceding point is that complex systems run as broken systems. The system continues to function because it contains so many redundancies and because people can make it function, despite the presence of many flaws. After accident reviews nearly always note that the system has a history of prior ‘proto-accidents’ that nearly generated catastrophe. Arguments that these degraded conditions should have been recognized before the overt accident are usually predicated on naïve notions of system performance. System operations are dynamic, with components (organizational, human, technical) failing and being replaced continuously.</a></label><br><a href="https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/034/905/312/260/039/original/11baa469add7dec7.png" rel="external">https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/034/905/312/260/039/original/11baa469add7dec7.png</a></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 04-Mar-2024 10:49:52 JSTPaul Cantrell
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I don’t much like the defeatism of that sentiment, as much as I share the frustration.
I've never read https://how.complexsystems.fail as being about democracy before, but your comment prompted me to do that now, and I’m finding it shines an interesting light on this political moment:
“Complex systems contain changing mixtures of failures latent within them.”
“Complex systems run in degraded mode.”
“Catastrophe is always just around the corner.”
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2. 4. Complex systems contain changing mixtures of failures latent within them. The complexity of these systems makes it impossible for them to run without multiple flaws being present. Because these are individually insufficient to cause failure they are regarded as minor factors during operations. Eradication of all latent failures is limited primarily by economic cost but also because it is difficult before the fact to see how such failures might contribute to an accident. The failures change constantly because of changing technology, work organization, and efforts to eradicate failures. 5. Complex systems run in degraded mode. A corollary to the preceding point is that complex systems run as broken systems. The system continues to function because it contains so many redundancies and because people can make it function, despite the presence of many flaws. After accident reviews nearly always note that the system has a history of prior ‘proto-accidents’ that nearly generated catastrophe. Arguments that these degraded conditions should have been recognized before the overt accident are usually predicated on naïve notions of system performance. System operations are dynamic, with components (organizational, human, technical) failing and being replaced continuously.
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