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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://hachyderm.io/users/molly0xfff/statuses/112004185460703825">Molly White (molly0xfff@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Feb-2024 00:39:18 JST</a><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff" title="molly0xfff@hachyderm.io"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/34789-48-20230824095227.webp" width="48" height="48" alt="Molly White" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">Molly White</a><div><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff/112004017427040370" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a></div></section><article><p>one of the people behind this project is Max Howell of homebrew fame.</p><p>he also runs what seems to be some sort of AI-powered package manager, which generates incorrect and nonsensical descriptions for the packages it lists.</p><p>when people asked questions, they were met with an AI bot</p><p><a href="https://github.com/pkgxdev/pantry/issues/5358" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://github.com/pkgxdev/pantry/issues/5358</a></p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/2767739#notice-5486858">In conversation</a><time datetime="2024-02-28T00:39:18+09:00" title="Wednesday, 28-Feb-2024 00:39:18 JST">about 9 months ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff/112004185460703825" rel="external" title="Sent from hachyderm.io via ActivityPub">hachyderm.io</a></span></span><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff/112004185460703825">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/2311838">I'm confused: what's with the project descriptions at https://pkgx.dev/pkgs/? #5358
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pawamoy opened this issue 3 days ago · 51 comments
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pawamoy commented 3 days ago
Sorry if this has been reported elsewhere already, or if this is explained in docs somewhere, but I don't understand the contents you have in https://pkgx.dev/pkgs/. Lets take a few popular projects:https://pkgx.dev/pkgs/atuin.sh/
Virtual reality mapping software.
Atuin is a software package that provides an interactive map and information on road toll rates, construction updates, and projects managed by the Central Texas Regional Mobility Authority. It also offers resources on business opportunities, financial information, and traveler information. Additionally, it allows users to pay tolls and provides information on road rules and violations.This is... complete nonsense? Is it auto-generated by AI or something?https://pkgx.dev/pkgs/rye-up.com/
Rye-up.com: Python project configuration.
Rye-up.com is a software package for Python projects that provides a user guide, community support, and a changelog. It helps with initializing search, syncing and locking projects, building, and publishing. Developed by mitsuhiko/rye, it aims to streamline the development process with its easy installation, configuration, and Python project management features."Provides a user guide, community support, and a changelog" 😂 Surely it cannot have been written by a human? It makes no sense either 😕 I th</a></label><br><a href="https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/004/115/293/740/186/original/191a40278e98ba65.png" rel="external">https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/004/115/293/740/186/original/191a40278e98ba65.png</a></li><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/2311839">dosubot bot commented 3 days ago • 
🤖Hey @pawamoy! Great to see you back here, diving into the intriguing world of pkg descriptions. Let's take a closer look together!Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I understand your confusion and concern about the project descriptions on pkgx.dev.Based on the information I have, the descriptions for the projects listed in the pantry repository are sourced from the package.yml files of each project. These YAML files contain metadata about the project, including its name, version, authors, description, and more. You can see an example of this in the twine package.yml file in the pantry repository.However, I wasn't able to find specific information on how these descriptions are generated or if there's an automatic process involved. It's possible that the descriptions you're seeing on pkgx.dev are placeholders or were generated in a way that doesn't accurately reflect the project's purpose.I agree with you that using the project descriptions from GitHub or the respective registries would be a more accurate and trustworthy source of information. This is definitely something that should be looked into further.I'm sorry I couldn't provide a more definitive answer. If you have more information about the process or if there's a specific part of the code you're curious about, please let me know. I'm here to help. DosuSources
projects/github.com/pypa/twine/package.yml
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OK, the whole thing seems to be run by AI 😂 I'm actually impressed. This is a quite good answer to my question. Update: Only in the form, as it just repeats what I suggested, and the added info seems to be wrong. However I don't see any description in the metadata for the mentioned package, Twine.Going a bit further on my previous comments: the packages at the top of the page seem to have correct description. So I guess description are auto-generated while waiting for the system to fetch accurate metadata from various places or for human to actually add accurate description in the YAML files?It's weird because the description for platformdirs starts very well, and then:Platformdirs is a Python module that helps determine platform-specific directories, like a "user data dir". It offers functionality to automate workflows, host and manage packages, find and fix vulnerabilities, and provides instant development environments. It enables developers to write better code with AI, manage code changes, and collaborate outside of code. Platformdirs is available on GitHub under the repository platformdirs/platformdirs.Looks like the algorithm is: if there's only one sentence, fill the rest with auto-generated contents?Anyway, this is actually funny, happy to hear the thoughts of a human on this 😂@dosubot good bot@dosubotDosuBot
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🤖Haha, I'm glad you're finding this interaction amusing!</a></label><br><a href="https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/004/119/698/297/892/original/85f824277d327ca2.png" rel="external">https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/004/119/698/297/892/original/85f824277d327ca2.png</a></li><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/2311841">daleglass commented 2 days ago
Yup, this is clearly very wrong.Look at atuin, the first example. The repo is https://github.com/atuinsh/atuinIt's not "virtual reality mapping software", but a commandline history search/archival tool. The description couldn't be less relevant to what the software actually does.@Ember-ruby
Ember-ruby commented 2 days ago
I get the generated pictures, waiting for maintainers to put their logo instead, but the descriptions...eh, something like GH default avatars would be better, as there's no chance of generating horrors, and doesn't need the resources that "ai" image generation does@alisonw
alisonw commented 2 days ago
Use Lorum Ipsum text if you just want to have content in a box, not AI crap which could be mistaken for real info.@odiferousmint
odiferousmint commented 2 days ago • 
What is the point of dosubot? It agrees, and apologizes for not having provided a supposedly adequate response.it's always best to have human input for accurate and meaningful descriptions.Said the bot. sighs.@Delta456
Delta456 commented 2 days ago
I wonder why no non-AI person is answering the questions.@leap0x7b
leap0x7b commented 2 days ago
Just based on the Atuin description, I can tell this is all AI-generated bullshit and not made by a real human being.</a></label><br><a href="https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/004/124/731/359/436/original/010778957d6d9df9.png" rel="external">https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/004/124/731/359/436/original/010778957d6d9df9.png</a></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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Molly White (molly0xfff@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Feb-2024 00:39:18 JST Molly White
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one of the people behind this project is Max Howell of homebrew fame.
he also runs what seems to be some sort of AI-powered package manager, which generates incorrect and nonsensical descriptions for the packages it lists.
when people asked questions, they were met with an AI bot
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