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@inthehands @josh
I cannot stress enough how much this topic annoys me.

To name another example, I often hear religious people talk about how "secular learning" is inherently evil and will cause a person to become less moral.

This couldn't be further from the truth. The person who is better able to anticipate outcomes has the potential to make better moral choices. Secular learning is critical to making good moral decisions, and you cannot always anticipate which is applicable.

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