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@LukeAlmighty @Nesano Skyrim is actually really good somewhere deep down, but there are a lot of problems with it for sure, from the mechanics to the story itself. Bethesda's lore is all over the fucking place and that game is no exception. Mods help you get immersed more for sure, and there is a wealth of lore and things like that which are really interesting to explore. The game is still, functionally, not really that great though, and the fact that they have been parading it around for over a decade in the state that it is in really does say something about the common consumer and the general gaming industry.