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@yockeypuck @Granwalder @IAMAL_PHARIUS @VIcFury
And never forget, that these people are creating associations. Even if you think that "hearing the message" is the important part, since form is the message, this form will be forever connected.

For example, I will never hear a lecture about god without seeing an absolute soyjak pointing at a tree telling me, that said tree is proof of God's existence.