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@lxo@gnusocial.net This is exactly what I'm talking about. Once again, as soon as I reply, the claws come out. You're mixing up copyrights and production rights, like most of the other people I've tried to engage with. Copyrights don't just protect publishers and corporations. They protect independent artists as well.

Where's the solidarity with 99% of working class artists? When I paint a painting, the right to make copies remains with me, the artist. Even if I sell a work of art, unless I transfer copyrights, I am still protected against a host of issues. It's not at all like you portray it.

I don't get why supposed "leftists" are up in arms about copyrights. When I try to dig deeper, the answer is piracy. But that's production rights. Your beef is with publishers, not copyright holders.

For example, suppose I team up with a couple other developers and we write an open source game under MIT license. We can't collectively change that license to a corporate copyright until all the copyright holders unanimously agree to go proprietary.

And I definitely agree that CORPORATE copyrights are bullshit.. but NOT because copyrights are BS. It's because of Citizen's United decision of corporate personhood. Corporations should not be legally allowed to hold copyrights. That's reform, though, not abolition.