@peterrelph2 The core truth of your point that elites are colluding worldwide to keep us down is true, and so is liberals being often so weak and spineless that they may as well be controlled opposition but being undiscerning to a fault results in basically advocating for not participating in democracy and thereby making it worse in a time of surging fascism worldwide. If democracy wasn't valuable, the fascists wouldn't be doing everything in their power to suppress it.