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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://mastodon.social/users/danluu/statuses/111666646509250420">Dan Luu (danluu@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 11:06:28 JST</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/@danluu" title="danluu@mastodon.social"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/35339-48-20221122073124.webp" width="48" height="48" alt="Dan Luu" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">Dan Luu</a><div><a href="https://mastodon.social/@danluu/111666597754475920" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a></div></section><article><p>It's trendy to say that everything sucks now and a thread about this goes viral every month, e.g., this was just at the top of HN.</p><p>Someone rebuts this with data, and someone says "is there anything you've bought new in the last _ten_ years that you still have?", apparently thinking that nothing you buy nowadays lasts ten years??? </p><p>It's quite odd to think that nothing lasts for years anymore, but there's this weird mood affiliation that causes people think this is a reasonable rebuttal.</p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/2516283#notice-4981503">In conversation</a><time datetime="2023-12-30T11:06:28+09:00" title="Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 11:06:28 JST">about a year ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://mastodon.social/@danluu/111666646509250420" rel="external" title="Sent from mastodon.social via ActivityPub">mastodon.social</a></span></span><a href="https://mastodon.social/@danluu/111666646509250420">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/2038080">Generation Junk (walterkirn.substack.com)woopwoop...But then he mentions a "hybrid sedan". Here I'm aware of the data. It's not close. Modern cars are much, much more reliable and durable than ones built at any time in the past.[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/automobiles/as-cars-are-k...[1] https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2021-us-vehi...replyghusto 1 hour ago | parent | next [–]&gt; Modern cars are much, much more reliable and durable than ones built at any time in the past.I continue to buy older cars because this has been false for me everywhere I've experienced new cars (borrowed, friends, my own).Pointing out lack of data to support an argument that relies on anecdotal evidence is good practice. However:- The anecdotal evidence is strong amongst older people- Data not existing doesn't mean it _can't_ existI suspect that younger people are just used to things not working, so they don't complain. Then there's the fact that there is no incentive for anyone else to show things could be better (except the old codgers like myself, but we're not a profitable demographic).I scour online auctions for old gear, because I know it'll work. Hi-Fi systems built in the 90s for example, were the panicle of hi-fi. Heck, I even have a CRT from _thirty years ago_ that still works like new (now think of your smart T.V. in thirty years).Forget that, is there anything you've bought new in the last _ten_ years that you still have?</a></label><br><a href="https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/111/666/641/874/581/564/original/3d98d77ccfec88b0.png" rel="external">https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/111/666/641/874/581/564/original/3d98d77ccfec88b0.png</a></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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Dan Luu (danluu@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 11:06:28 JST Dan Luu
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It's trendy to say that everything sucks now and a thread about this goes viral every month, e.g., this was just at the top of HN.
Someone rebuts this with data, and someone says "is there anything you've bought new in the last _ten_ years that you still have?", apparently thinking that nothing you buy nowadays lasts ten years???
It's quite odd to think that nothing lasts for years anymore, but there's this weird mood affiliation that causes people think this is a reasonable rebuttal.
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1. Generation Junk (walterkirn.substack.com) woopwoop ... But then he mentions a "hybrid sedan". Here I'm aware of the data. It's not close. Modern cars are much, much more reliable and durable than ones built at any time in the past. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/automobiles/as-cars-are-k... [1] https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2021-us-vehi... reply ghusto 1 hour ago | parent | next [–] > Modern cars are much, much more reliable and durable than ones built at any time in the past. I continue to buy older cars because this has been false for me everywhere I've experienced new cars (borrowed, friends, my own). Pointing out lack of data to support an argument that relies on anecdotal evidence is good practice. However: - The anecdotal evidence is strong amongst older people - Data not existing doesn't mean it _can't_ exist I suspect that younger people are just used to things not working, so they don't complain. Then there's the fact that there is no incentive for anyone else to show things could be better (except the old codgers like myself, but we're not a profitable demographic). I scour online auctions for old gear, because I know it'll work. Hi-Fi systems built in the 90s for example, were the panicle of hi-fi. Heck, I even have a CRT from _thirty years ago_ that still works like new (now think of your smart T.V. in thirty years). Forget that, is there anything you've bought new in the last _ten_ years that you still have?
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