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@LukeAlmighty @Awoo yeah it does require a LOT of tinkering. the sad thing is that by the time you're 30-40 hours into the game, you're not really required to think about any of it much because you have the blueprints and can just make airbikes to go anywhere you want. the fire temple is probably the most complex one in the game, but only if you don't just climb and fly around everywhere. then it becomes the worst one. that's why i said the novelty kind of wears off, because here i am at this awesome dungeon and oh.... i've just skipped the whole thing. in the case of the shrines, at least they really accounted for all the possibilities and if you wanted to cheese something it would often be harder than if you did it the intended way, but especially with that dungeon it really did feel like i was cheating.