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@sharan I'm not sure what that means, though. People say that without offering evidence, largely because the dirtsheet narrative has become the dominant one. Similar to Bret, Punk's consistently expressed the he may speak and regret it later, that he makes mistakes, and gets things wrong. I get the impression that Tony Khan and his EVPs would die before once accepting responsibility for anything, even though they're at the top of their hierarchy. I referred to this here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/92585062?utm_campaign=postshare_creator