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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://urbanists.social/users/SRLevine/statuses/111381645396363892">Sam Levine (srlevine@urbanists.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2023 02:04:56 JST</a><a href="https://urbanists.social/@SRLevine" title="srlevine@urbanists.social"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/114156-48-20230423030151.webp" width="48" height="48" alt="Sam Levine" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">Sam Levine</a><div><a href="https://glaceon.social/@The_T/111380996570202984" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a></div></section><article><p><a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/AltText" rel="tag">#AltText</a></p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/2303256#notice-4544211">In conversation</a><time datetime="2023-11-10T02:04:56+09:00" title="Friday, 10-Nov-2023 02:04:56 JST">about a year ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://urbanists.social/@SRLevine/111381645396363892" rel="external" title="Sent from urbanists.social via ActivityPub">urbanists.social</a></span></span><a href="https://urbanists.social/@SRLevine/111381645396363892">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/1792153">user: keatxu , Oct 18 
abandonware should be public domain. force companies to actively support and provide products if they don't wanna lose the rights to themuser: omikronsoul, Oct 23
Game companies hate emulaton,but one of them seem to understand that 1ot of us would just buy ROMs from them directly if we could, | don't want a fifth remake of Final Fantasy IV, I want to pay 5 bucks for the 3MB file you already made bank with thirty years ago. Nobody who wants to play something for the purpose of retro gaming is going to consider a $40 remake as the altemative option, and we're certainly not going to let the orginal dissaepper. They're crying about opportunity cost for a product they're not even selling.user: justletmeremember, 23 h ago
 op i know you're probably talking about like, video games, et but this is also critical for research science - my lab as so much abandonware, either because the company's out of business, or the company decided to not maintain it, and it's a fucking nightmare. we have two windows 95 computers that are *critical* for performing/experiments data analysis because the software needed is abandonware. on of the main roles for a guy in my lab is to maintain these little dinosaurs because if they go out we lose access ~20 years of raw data for research. 
(continued next image)</a></label><br><a href="https://cdn.masto.host/urbanistssocial/media_attachments/files/111/381/573/246/416/738/original/561ab708594f8534.png" rel="external">https://cdn.masto.host/urbanistssocial/media_attachments/files/111/381/573/246/416/738/original/561ab708594f8534.png</a></li><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/1792154">(continued from previous image)part of why is that these companies also make their own file types, and make it difficult to-impossible to convert those file types without their specific software. by habit, i convert all research files to more generic versions (tat, pdf, tif, etc) so that i minimize risk of losing my shit but some stuff can't be converted.for example, we have a microscope that is perfectly functional, good. microscope, but its software is abandonware because the company. refused to maintain it. the company is still in business, still makes essentially the exact same software, but they made all of the old tech incompatible with new software to force people to buy the new microscope tech. it would cot  quarter million dollars to replace this microscope. this perfectly good microscope.so like, i know a lot of people look at the original post hear and go "well op just wants old video games o play” (which is valid games companies should not be able to push shit to abandonware and then close it off) but also this is critical for like, biomedical research. if you had any idea how much basic infrastructure built on science relies on shit that is technically abandonware, you would probably be horrified.</a></label><br><a href="https://cdn.masto.host/urbanistssocial/media_attachments/files/111/381/573/549/701/042/original/e51351ec4bc12472.png" rel="external">https://cdn.masto.host/urbanistssocial/media_attachments/files/111/381/573/549/701/042/original/e51351ec4bc12472.png</a></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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1. user: keatxu , Oct 18 abandonware should be public domain. force companies to actively support and provide products if they don't wanna lose the rights to them user: omikronsoul, Oct 23 Game companies hate emulaton,but one of them seem to understand that 1ot of us would just buy ROMs from them directly if we could, | don't want a fifth remake of Final Fantasy IV, I want to pay 5 bucks for the 3MB file you already made bank with thirty years ago. Nobody who wants to play something for the purpose of retro gaming is going to consider a $40 remake as the altemative option, and we're certainly not going to let the orginal dissaepper. They're crying about opportunity cost for a product they're not even selling. user: justletmeremember, 23 h ago op i know you're probably talking about like, video games, et but this is also critical for research science - my lab as so much abandonware, either because the company's out of business, or the company decided to not maintain it, and it's a fucking nightmare. we have two windows 95 computers that are *critical* for performing/experiments data analysis because the software needed is abandonware. on of the main roles for a guy in my lab is to maintain these little dinosaurs because if they go out we lose access ~20 years of raw data for research. (continued next image)
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2. (continued from previous image) part of why is that these companies also make their own file types, and make it difficult to-impossible to convert those file types without their specific software. by habit, i convert all research files to more generic versions (tat, pdf, tif, etc) so that i minimize risk of losing my shit but some stuff can't be converted. for example, we have a microscope that is perfectly functional, good. microscope, but its software is abandonware because the company. refused to maintain it. the company is still in business, still makes essentially the exact same software, but they made all of the old tech incompatible with new software to force people to buy the new microscope tech. it would cot quarter million dollars to replace this microscope. this perfectly good microscope. so like, i know a lot of people look at the original post hear and go "well op just wants old video games o play” (which is valid games companies should not be able to push shit to abandonware and then close it off) but also this is critical for like, biomedical research. if you had any idea how much basic infrastructure built on science relies on shit that is technically abandonware, you would probably be horrified.
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