@SAUNDERS @MartinDeLaToot 💯 agreed there is nothing suprising about this war. It's been brewing and planned for decades. It was basically policy to set up this situation since Putin took over in 2000. I don't believe there is intent for it to spill over to anything that requires US and EU troops on the ground. Just another art of the political game that is forever wars in foreign countries that provide political dominance without significant cost (💲cost doesn't count).