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@feld@bikeshed.party Sony, Samsung, and Google (in recent years) have been making consistent gains to their cameras year over year while Apple will step-climb their development. It wasn't until the iPhone 14 that we really saw any major change in Apple's camera setup, and the iPhone 15 is more or less just an evolution or iteration of that. Before they had the same setup, or approximately the same setup, for like 3--4 releases. I have a Google Pixel 7 Pro and my girlfriend has the new iPhone 15 Pro. We just went on a trip together and my camera was consistently out-shooting hers, despite the smartphone being about a year older. To be fair, a lot of that has to do with computational photography and image processing, which is by-and-large up to the whims and desires of whoever is programming the defaults "from the factory". But, in terms of more objective criteria therein, from telephoto to low-light photography, my Pixel just trounced her iPhone. In normal daylight using the default focal lengths it was pretty 1:1. @Moon@shitposter.club