@Rasterman Yeah, I'd never claim that any of the New Super Mario Bros. games are actually bad or even mediocre (except the 3DS one, which I never played), they're well-designed and offer good gameplay variety - but they're just so similar in so many ways, so basic and safe, and so visually underwhelming that they never become anything more than just fun Mario platformers. They're also really lacking in terms having an identity of their own - the Mario 3D World mode in Mario Maker 2 is actually a far bigger change from NSMBU than NSMBU (the 4th game in the series) was compared to NSMB DS (1st game in the series). In fact, I'm surprised THAT'S not what ended up serving as the basis for Nintendo's next 2D Mario platformer, they could totally have gotten away with it, because 2D Mario 3D World is surprisingly cool.