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    Jonathan Corbet (corbet@social.kernel.org)'s status on Sunday, 22-Oct-2023 12:20:56 JSTJonathan CorbetJonathan Corbet
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    @marcan @bars One of the worst things about working in the kernel — one of the most toxic parts — is the constant stream of nastiness toward our community that comes from outside.

    The kernel community is far from perfect; we have a lot of problems and we have been actively working for years (decades) to improve on them.

    We are, nonetheless, a project that manages to incorporate nearly 100,000 commits per year, from over 5,000 developers, into a single code base while maintaining a level of quality that — while also certainly in need of improvement — is good enough for deployment into billions of devices.

    As for the use of email...email is painful and broken, but we have found nothing better that will work at the scale we need. See https://lwn.net/Articles/702177/ from a few years back. For all its faults, email is distributed, non-proprietary, scriptable, and gives everybody the freedom to choose their tools; it is a highly inclusive solution in a way that proprietary web forges (for example) are not. Someday we'll find something better and move on with a cry of joy, but that day has not come.

    Rather than crapping on the kernel community from afar, why not work with us to try to make things better?
    In conversationSunday, 22-Oct-2023 12:20:56 JST from social.kernel.orgpermalink

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      Why kernel development still uses email
      In a world full of fancy development tools and sites, the kernel project's dependence on email and mailing lists can seem quaintly dated, if not positively prehistoric. But, as Greg Kroah-Hartman pointed out in a Kernel Recipes talk titled "Patches carved into stone tablets", there are some good reasons for the kernel community's choices. Rather than being a holdover from an older era, email remains the best way to manage a project as large as the kernel.
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