@pyrate the israelis parroted the forced conscription from ussr anyway, it's good on paper, but in practice it usually just leads to a year of your life wasted on being ordered around by career "soldiers" that never saw combat, sure, they'll teach you how to shoot a gun, help you with your physique, teach you survival skills, but all that shit was just being perfected over the decades by people who actually saw combat
but yea, israel cannot ever be based or keyed, or any other definition of good really