@justnormalkorean StarCraft is ok, but I think they contributed to the downfall of the genre as well with the constant focus on meta, the rules are too rigid, it's not fun until you conform to the arbitrary style of playing, C&C to an extent does have that element, but it's not as important, especially if you play asymmetrical maps, playing "tournament" is boring as fuck, the fun is in the chaos of the inevitable tank spam.