@phoenix @pinguicula yeah, although i do wish germans and austrians would be more proud of their past, even an era like the third reich had some good in it, even if a lot of it was ruined over time, like volkswagen, like russians aren't fucking afraid of their past, we have pride in the soviet union and the empire, we have no fucking problem showing both side by side, we have no problem having religious orthodox christians praise the soviet union, that's just our silly brand of schizophrenia that gives us strength