@PacificNic but you see, the organization and expertise and supply chains necessary to keep all that medicine and technology going are more complex than any single person can understand, *let alone* our ecological shithead friends, and so they simply assume that it can't remotely be done in a sustainable way or done absent hierarchy or authority, because, since they don't understand it, they can't imagine doing it in an alternate way. It's essentially the ultimate appeal to ignorance. They simply aren't creative enough to think of ways that we could do these things without damaging the environment or using hierarchy so they decide we have to do without. Like the Crimethinc article about how we can't have computers because long supply chains require hierarchy to organize. Why? Because they said so that's why.