@graf @PraxisOfEvil @monsterislandcolonizer @Groomschild @Owl @fearisfreedom @bleedingphoenix Yeah there's definitely people of that mindset out there and I don't doubt you. The biggest problem is getting all the guys like that together under a unified banner and channeling that into something. I think so much of it is just not being able to gather like minded people, everyone is atomized and demoralized and they don't want to do free work towards something good just to be taken advantage of.