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    Tirifto (tirifto@jam.xwx.moe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Sep-2022 02:31:44 JSTTiriftoTirifto
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    > You can't have freedom without privacy.

    @TerminalAutism @gnusocialjp @digdeeper @ryo I don’t think privacy is a condition for freedom, at least not in this context. If a program spies on me, and I am free to make it stop, it respects my freedom (in that regard); if I’m not free to make it stop, it disrespects my freedom. Likewise, if a program is _not_ spying on me, and I am free to make it spy on me, it respects my freedom; if I’m not allowed to make it spy on me, my freedom is not being respected.

    > When you can't have privacy, you are not free to have privacy so you're not free.

    Yes, but that’s a different problem altogether. Not having privacy is very different from not being able to have privacy. It's the difference between not having curtains covering your windows (because you don’t really care if your neighbours can see you at the moment), and not being able or allowed to cover your windows with curtains.
    In conversationSunday, 25-Sep-2022 02:31:44 JST from miniwa.moepermalink
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