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@FinalOverdrive I mean, for people who truly can't live beside others without victimizing them, who cannot be redeemed, and who commit acts that cannot be healed with restorative justice, someone is just pretty much inevitably going to kill them one day, either as self defense or to protect the community, and everyone else in the community will each have to decide for themselves whether they censure the person who did it or not, and allow diffuse social sanctions (or the probably lack thereof in this case) fall how they may. And allowing that to happen, recognizing that it does, is not a centralized death penalty, and I think it's perfectly acceptable. Additionally, for someone truly irredeemable, their reputation will spread, and eventually no one is going to want to associate with them at all. They'll be kicked out of housing and workplaces and community gathering places, no one will want to interact with them, and eventually they'll just have to leave. And again, that's fine. Restorative justice and conflict resolution and so on, that's all for, and assumes, reasonable people that can be redeemed. Someone who truly can't be redeemed is outside that. It simply doesn't apply. It's the entirely wrong context.