@feld yea that’s certainly one of the main challenges, that and logging imho should be taught with more emphasis.

I’ve been happy moving most of my poorly maintained services to daemon(8). But I’ll agree there really isn’t one approach to rule them all.

One thing I really hate about daemontools are the binary logs. I ran a large scale erlang cluster managed by daemontools and it was always so awkward to see what was going on, which was usually during an emergency. Interestingly that’s my least fav feature of systemd too.