@e @alex @josh My point is that all of this soyware that purports to increase productivity has a rather flimsy argument for it actually being the case. Especially since you can make the same arguments with things that are no longer the new hotness and haven't been in years, like Rails. It's just a variation on the framework treadmill from a decade ago, except this time it's programmers trying to get ever more abstracted and removed from the metal without really implementing anything new.

I just got out of a conversation with @marine about an idea of hers that actually qualifies as new and none of these "technologies" are going to help her with it because all these "technologies" do is permute on CRUD, a problem that has been thoroughly solved for two decades at a minimum.