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@david I’m reminded of the time when I was a preteen. I was bullied a lot. My friend’s brother thought he could get in on the action. He positioned himself and a crowd of about 20-30 kids on a bit of green space on the route between our homes and challenged me to a fight, effectively blocking my way unless I agreed.

I didn’t want to, but he made it very clear that I wasn’t getting past without.

I was a year older. I was taller. I walked up to him, knocked him down, sat on him before he could get up, then put my arm across his neck until has face turned purple and he started crying.

Then I got up and walked away.

He went home and cried to his mum. She effectively game him the “fuck around and find out” lecture.

Don’t channeled bullied kids to fights. They have likely learned through experience. Zuckerberg looks like he was bullied a lot more than Musk was.