@Darmy67 @greyfox46 @Neigh-Sayer @justnormalkorean my mom got something called a "letpot" hydroponics ssystem cuz she wanted to see what hydroponics was about, she said something about buying a bigger one if it goes well, i said "i think if you wanna go bigger we should just build something rater than get another commercial product that connects to a phone app to control it"