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@rml I'm not really in that world, lucky to be able to move between languages and enjoy their different perspectives. But, I don't think it's healthy thinking really, pigeon-holing yourself and then fighting an imaginary war against other kinds of pigeons.

I guess as a researcher, I just see huge value in the idea of a 'research language'. Programming language development has been really stuck for decades so I'm all for learning research languages and trying out a new way of thinking.

It would be nice if we found ways in which the economy could support curiosity and creativity..