@lain @apropos @augustus Imagine if Ukraine couldn't borrow large sums of money from western countries or take their older resources. The kings in the past really had to think about that when they were at war, and often had to retreat for the winter. Even Russia has to think about this, perhaps a part of why they held such restraint for many years to ensure that they wouldn't be worse off when they finally got an opportunity to become involved and had an excuse to be.