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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://dair-community.social/users/trochee/statuses/109990475169625654">Jeremy Kahn (trochee@dair-community.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Apr-2023 02:16:05 JST</a><a href="https://dair-community.social/@trochee" title="trochee@dair-community.social"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/80072-48-20240526045552.webp" width="48" height="48" alt="Jeremy Kahn" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">Jeremy Kahn</a><div><a href="https://dair-community.social/@trochee/109990409536237161" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a></div></section><article><p>This section in particular seems like loading up a footgun for armchair linguists</p><p>&gt; Because these systems cannot explain the rules of english syntax</p><p>is a _humongous_ self-own. it suggests that Chomsky &amp; co believe that the determining factor of intelligence is _the ability to explain English syntax_</p><p>I believe these three factors are orthogonal &amp; distinct:<br>(1) be intelligent<br>(2) be able to explain English grammar<br>(3) be able to correctly deploy English in context</p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/1419291#notice-2899772">In conversation</a><time datetime="2023-04-30T02:16:05+09:00" title="Sunday, 30-Apr-2023 02:16:05 JST">Sunday, 30-Apr-2023 02:16:05 JST</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://dair-community.social/@trochee/109990475169625654" rel="external" title="Sent from dair-community.social via ActivityPub">dair-community.social</a></span></span><a href="https://dair-community.social/@trochee/109990475169625654">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/891244">snippet from the NYT article:For this reason, the predictions of machine learning systems will always be superficial and dubious.  Because these programs cannot explain the rules of English syntax, for example, they may well predict, incorrectly, that "John is too stubborn to talk to" means that John is so stubbort that he will not talk to someone or other (rather than that he is too stubborn to be reasoned with).Why would a machine learning program predict something so odd?
[... because it might analogize...]
The correct explanations of language are complicated and cannot be learned just by marinating in big data.</a></label><br><a href="https://cdn.masto.host/daircommunitysocial/media_attachments/files/109/990/444/217/921/981/original/ec814648f9969d6b.png" rel="external">https://cdn.masto.host/daircommunitysocial/media_attachments/files/109/990/444/217/921/981/original/ec814648f9969d6b.png</a></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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Jeremy Kahn (trochee@dair-community.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Apr-2023 02:16:05 JST Jeremy Kahn
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This section in particular seems like loading up a footgun for armchair linguists
> Because these systems cannot explain the rules of english syntax
is a _humongous_ self-own. it suggests that Chomsky & co believe that the determining factor of intelligence is _the ability to explain English syntax_
I believe these three factors are orthogonal & distinct:
(1) be intelligent
(2) be able to explain English grammar
(3) be able to correctly deploy English in context
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1. snippet from the NYT article: For this reason, the predictions of machine learning systems will always be superficial and dubious. Because these programs cannot explain the rules of English syntax, for example, they may well predict, incorrectly, that "John is too stubborn to talk to" means that John is so stubbort that he will not talk to someone or other (rather than that he is too stubborn to be reasoned with). Why would a machine learning program predict something so odd? [... because it might analogize...] The correct explanations of language are complicated and cannot be learned just by marinating in big data.
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