@garry I knew these guys. Balsillie once accused me of ‘tech-boosterism’ when I did a talk ; he thought I hyped tech too much LOL. Their HQ was about 12 km from my home. It’s such a sad and unnecessary failure, but predictable. (fun fact: i was once approached by one director to consider a board position; this was about 3 years before the implosion. Good thing i never made the cut!)