@danlyke I have read this entire thread, I would like people like you to get the underlying problem fixed first before refusing to build anymore roads. I was poor enough that I could not afford to buy a car until I was 26, I took the bus everywhere in Portland, OR, and I would not willingly go back. My wages went up $2/hr almost immediately, my commute to Community College went to 30min from 2hr, and I had the immediate freedom to go to the coast, forests, and rivers.